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Postby derf » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:43 am

Good morning

Do you know if any 'adapting' to your drivers are needed when the new v7.10 is released next month?

i have a Mill'm P750 which is fine right now but am just wondering

Many thanks for your site btw
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Postby tuxx-home.at » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:29 pm

I don't think that any adaptions are necessary on the driver side.
The only thing that might happen is the well known ABI mismatch error
from Xorg, but it's safe to work around that with the "ignoreABI" switches
either on the Xorg command line or in xorg.conf as mentioned in the FAQ.
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Postby derf » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:48 pm

Many thanks
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Postby tuxx-home.at » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:40 am

BTW: If there are problems on gutsy, simply come back here and we'll fix
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Postby derf » Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:25 am

Thanks very much, will do.

And a BTW back to you - have you seen this?

There will be a nifty new feature (BulletProofX) for changing graphics, monitors, projectors, etc. - see demo here

"...BulletProof-X provides a failsafe mode to ensure users never have to manually configure their graphics hardware settings from the command line."

Another new feature -

- "Add Model allows users to add a new monitor by using the Windows driver CD that came with their monitor. It uses a script to parse the Windows *.inf file to get the hsync, vsync, edid, dpms and other info to update the database locally."
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Postby tuxx-home.at » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:49 am

There will be a nifty new feature (BulletProofX) for changing graphics,
monitors, projectors, etc.


BulletProofX is available now for quite some time and I was never eager
into looking at it, but I support such an idea of an X server that doesn't
completely fail to start in case of configuration issues.

What I would like to see in the future is an X server that is unable to lock
down your whole system when something goes wrong with the configuration,
_THAT_ would really be an improvement.

Add Model allows users to add a new monitor by using the Windows driver
CD that came with their monitor.


Nice feature.
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Postby derf » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:15 am

tuxx-home.at wrote:BulletProofX is available now for quite some time

Do you have a link for it?

And from when has it been available?

Which distros have it?

tuxx-home.at wrote:.and I was never eager into looking at it

Why not?
tuxx-home.at wrote:but I support such an idea of an X server that doesn't
completely fail to start in case of configuration issues.

Agreed!
tuxx-home.at wrote:What I would like to see in the future is an X server that is unable to lock down your whole system when something goes wrong with the configuration _THAT_ would really be an improvement.

Agreed!
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Postby tuxx-home.at » Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:58 am

Do you have a link for it?


Of course:
[http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/BulletProofX/bulletproofx-0.1.tgz]

But I don't know, if this is the latest released version of bpX, you'll have
to ask the maintainer for updated versions.

And from when has it been available?


I don't know for sure, but I know that some discussions were around several
years ago about such an enhancement to the X server and that there were
some discrepancines about how to implement such a thing along with
some prototypes.

Maybe, Bryce's BPX has nothing todo with the one we discussed about
several years ago :)

Which distros have it?


AFAIK, no distributions currently contain such a software, but that doesn't
mean that it isn't available.

Personally, I don't like this whole discussion about how to make the X
server more userfriendly.
There are talks around to remove the good old CTRL-ALT-* key combos,
such as CTRL-ALT-Backspace (I love this, but ex-windows users could
occasionally loose all their data when hitting CTRL-ALT-Backspace),
CTRL-ALT-Fx to switch to text consoles (omg, this poor windows users
would never find their way back to the grahpical system!!), etc.

Of course, I understand what f.ex. Ubuntu is trying todo on the Linux
Enduser market, but this should _NOT_ bug us long-time users in terms
of changed software behaviour, etc.

My opinion: Implement more additional X server flags (some are currently
available, e.g. the Disable Ctrl-alt-backspace thing) and activate them on
user-friendly distributions, but leave us the choice to enable them.

And if the X server wouldn't fail completely in terms of errorneous
configurations, BPX wouldn't be necessary at all.
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Postby derf » Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:07 am

Many thanks - also for all this background info
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Postby tuxx-home.at » Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:10 am

You're welcome.
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